The First Prior: from Co-Embodiment to Co-Homeostasis in Early Life

hello let me just wait one sorry just one second so you introduced me first right yep just wanted to make sure that it started and it looks like we have so hello and welcome everyone to active lab this is actin flap guest stream number 6.1 and we're really happy to be here with dr anna cia so anna thanks so much for joining we really appreciate it and we're looking forward to this talk please just take it away and if anyone in the uh live chat wants to ask a question i will relay those questions to you at the end of this talk so thanks again for coming on the stream and we're looking forward to what you have to share thank you so much danielle and thank you so much for having me um today i'm going to present a paper that we worked on the past past year and just came out um but i'm going to start very briefly with some of my background as a researcher so i'm trained as an armchair philosopher so i did um in analytics philosophy so i did my thesis on physicalism in qualia you know the famous mind body problem so how exactly so some physical stuff connects with you know mental stuff and gets you know the uh gives rise to the subjective experience of our conscious experiences like the heart problem of consciousness um and i was obsessed as any respectable philosopher i reality philosophy with you know the whole problem of consciousness and whether there is something special about the subjectivity of our conscious experiences right and because i'm coming from burgundy i spent a lot of time trying to you know say that there is something about our there is something special about our subjective conscious experience because there is something what is this like for instance to taste a particular wine and coming from burgundy i had a lot of experience and natural example with that but more recently i decided to get off the armchair of philosophy and i'm recently started to collaborate with people from quantum science i actually also have a master in cognitive science in development of psychology and uh i'm recently collaborated with the institute of community of neuroscience as ucl in london and my job there is to ask annoying questions to uh scientists like what do you mean by perception what do you mean by social right um just to give us some examples so uh one of the annoying questions i really i like to ask is um you know whenever i go to a conference is uh i ask people to look around them in the audience and realize that actually there are no infants in the audience uh just adults and uh i interpolate them on that and they look at me say you know why i don't see the point why is this important well it is important because i mean when we start investigating mind and bodies we already have another centric um theoretical lens so this means that the way we look at the phenomena is from a certain standpoint and the standard point that you're using inverted um inescapably is an adult one right so this means that we might have a sort of like implicit bias towards certain phenomena a certain way of understanding phenomena that is somehow you know um adult centric and uh we need to be careful if we want to understand her mind and uh how mind and brain work in the first place so um given that my initial uh you know entrance point into the science and philosophy was like uh perceptual awareness like the fundamental point of contact of a subject with the reality of the objects out there in the world so um this is like the fundamental way of actually structuring an experience so you have this axis you have an experience of subject with relations object over there and typically for instance this is how self-consciousness is understood like uh perceptual awareness when one perceives oneself as self-distinct from the world and others and how is that linked to self-recognition in the mirror for instance right so for instance like is the famous rouge test if you recognize yourself in the mirrors as a toddler and you see that the person in the…